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“experiences From ‘the Flow’ (19): Another Good Tilt With a Bar Girl?”

Written by admin on April 17th, 2010. Posted in Relationships

By Carl “J.C.” Pantejo, Copyright March 2008

(Author “My Friend Yu – The Prosperity Guide,” Copyright August 2007. Pantejo – Y.N. Vurce Publishing.)

“Prosperity: The eternal flow of all that’s excellent in life…”

*Below is the nineteenth episode based on a series of real life events experienced by the author. The only deviations from the certainty may be the names of people and places. These tales are also incorporated in “My Friend Yu – the Prosperity Guide: Book II,” Pantejo – Y.N. Vurce Publishing. Release Date: 2008.

The naïve customer (a self not savvy at “The Game” of Thai bars) doesn’t know the following: The main thing a Bar Girl sees when a man comes into their bar is the amount of dough signs he is competent of producing.

And, of course, Bar Girls are experts at helping customers part with their money!

This article is mainly for those courageous souls who, in spite of the discussions we had about Asian Bar Girl/Western Man Relationships in “Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (18)…,” still insist on having a serious relationship with a Bar Girl.

- A Blissful State -

Congratulations.

You believe that you have found a partner that likes you and makes you pleased. She is young, wonderful, sweet, and sexy – everything you could not find in your home country, right?

Sure, she is not perfect, especially in the foreign language and finance areas; but when you weighed the Pluses against the Minuses on Your Scale, the Scale tilted toward Obvious Compatibility.

- Devil’s Advocate -

Okay, now I got to be the a$$hole, the party-pooper, the spoiler, etc.

But I do this with essential empathy, my friend.

I do this because I don’t want you to end up as a statistic, one of the thousands of Farangs (Thai: foreigners) that reckon they’ve found the woman of their dreams, only to find out (in small order) that reality doesn’t match their idealized notions of co-habitation with an Asian woman.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but believe me, what I’ve got to say may:

1. Save you a lot of heartache, headaches, and bankruptcy.

2. Help you maintain (or improve) your current blissful state for as long as possible.

3. Raise some questions whose answers, but distasteful, will make you a wiser Farang in Thailand.

- Questions -

Where did you meet your Thai girlfriend/wife?

In a bar?

I question you this because the ole’ adage: “You can take the girl out of the bar, but you can’t take the bar out of the girl,” is a tried and right axiom.

The cruel fact is that there are only two times you can trust a Thai Bar Girl:

1) When she has just begun her career in the Bar Girl Profession and

2) When she is a bar-weary veteran, ready to retire.

All others are “in between” (i.e., still on “active duty,” practicing and perfecting their sex fascinate, schemes, and routines).

A mid-career Bar Girl in “The Game” is quite a sight to be seen, indeed.

She means to be a key player in “The Game” and will do anything to get the most money, as quick as she can, from the “customer pool – men”.

For these women, men are only regarded as: past customers, prospective customers, current cash cows, or merely toy/playthings that pay).

In their minds, men are certainly not: friends, lovers, non-paying boyfriends or husbands; in small, men are merely things, not real people with feelings, hopes, and desires).

Why is this so?

Although each Bar Girl is a unique individual, the following are common reasons. In part or parcel, these conditions contribute to their cut throat callousness – the “sharp teeth within their cute, wonderful smiles”:

1. Professional Objectivity (staying focused on making money previous to she gets too ancient and “unmarketable”).

2. Safeguard from scoundrels (yes, there are many terrible men out there).

3. A lack of “excellent men role models” in their lives. That is, most of the men they’ve seen throughout their lives were usually uneducated, bone idle, abusive, or unreliable, often disappearing for years to forever. This is common in the rural, poverty stricken areas “up country” – North Eastern Thailand.

4. Safeguard from life emotionally hurt. Since most foreigners come and go rapidly, it’s stupid for them to get emotionally attached.

5. The only support system they have is the Bar’s social network of fellow Bar Girls, Mamasans, clean-up boys, and “katoys” (Thai: transsexuals). Leaving the bar scene means venturing into scary, uncharted waters without her usual friends.

6. Most are uneducated, not attending or finishing High School. What would they do and where would they go if they left the bar?

7. They have tried (or simply dislike) regular “daytime jobs” and were disillusioned with the hard work and low pay. The bar scene is all they know. It can be fun. It’s simple – all one has to do is look pretty and entertain – AND certainly pays better.

It’s a system that swallows up thousands of “fresh from the farm” girls and spits out seasoned, “bar-tested” veterans.

- Right Like? -

A young serviceman friend of mine in Japan told me that the woman (an Asian woman) he met at a bar in the infamous “honch” area outside of Yokosuka U.S. Naval Base was truly in like with him.

He really considered asking her to marry him.

And he wanted some advice from “a salty dog” (meaning: me).

His naivety was awkward to observe.

In him, I saw a young version of myself, full of all the right motives, but without the where-with-all that only comes from years of schlepping in and out of Asian bars.

My response to him?

“Go back there and tell her you’re out of money. Better yet, tell her that you want to go in with her, but you need to borrow money until payday. Excellent luck, son. I’ll talk to you next week.”

Of course, he was singing a really different tune when I saw him a week later. He was very pissed-off and his comments about her were acidic, bordering on murderous.

I told him to chill out.

“Don’t’ take it private. A girl’s got’ta eat. Reckon of it this way: You’re mixing her business with your pleasure. If you really reckon it’s like, wait, wait, and wait! And for God’s sake always know where your valuables are!” I said.

I don’t’ know whether my words sunk in (or not) because I haven’t heard from him for over a decade now. I can only hope that my words prevented a few private disasters.

Ah, Bar Girls. I could go on and on about them.

They’re incredible. Aren’t they?

They’re terrible. Aren’t they?

- Some Advice: Take it or Leave it, Your Choice -

Since only a fraction of one percent of Asian Bar Girl/Western Man relationships succeed (usually because she is either a rookie or a ready-to-retire veteran), I will be submitting a small list of things to ponder at the end of this article.

If you met your “compatible partner” in a bar, I advise you to have a healthy paranoia.

Don’t go buying a car for her. Or even worse, a house in her name! (As ridiculous as this may sound, it happens frequently in Thailand).

In small, don’t go broke over her.

I have too many friends who have full out unsecured, private loans and maxed out their credit cards over Bar Girls who’ve long since disappeared.

In fact, I know of three individuals who came home from work to a lonely house or apartment. No furniture, refrigerator, TV, stereo, clothes, dishes, etc.! Everything was gone! Nothing, I mean nothing was left! My friends literally had to borrow money for food and sheets!

Best advice?

Just wait and watch.

It might sound like a prison sentence to you, but waiting and watching not only protects you from life ransacked; it also gives you time to observe her right character – in every light.

How long?

A excellent rule of thumb, if she says she’s new, is at least triple the time she “says” she’s been working in the bar. Of course, you may by no means know the right part of her Bar Girl career; so it’s a safe bet to assume whatever she tells you about it is a “low-ball” lie.

If she’s a veteran, waiting at least 18-24 months is a conservative time span to consider.

Patience and wariness will preclude much of the emotional turmoil and financial catastrophes so commonly found among “ex” Asian Bar Girl/Western Man relationships.

Additionally, if she is (or looks) older than 20, look for the following hallmark signs of veteran Bar Girls:

1. Nocturnal living. Even after months with you, she can’t get out of bed until 1:30-3:30PM. In fact, getting up early to see the sunlight gives her a furious headache. Also, she will show the demeanor of a vampire that has been violently disturbed from her cryptic slumber.

2. She is a total slob (worse than Oscar from “The Odd Couple”) and can’t cook – even a piece of toast – because she’s too used to hotel cleaning staff, room service, restaurants, and 7-11 “cup noodles”.

3. She appears to have very few belongings. Why? They are strewn about her co-workers apartments or “ex” boyfriend’s places. Bar Girls are like gypsies; they are experts at making hasty get-aways.

4. She’s a spendthrift. Forget “like water through her fingers,” “air” is more like it! The cost of her “daily needs” straightforwardly surpass the normal, daily salary of any hardworking, college-educated, Thai worker.

5. In spite of no formal schooling (i.e., a university degree or night English education at a Foreign language School), she suspiciously speaks above-average English.

6. She disappears at a moment’s notice for hours and her explanation upon returning doesn’t hold water (a blatant lie).

7. She can drink you under the table.

8. You find drug paraphernalia.

9. She always desires to include “her friends” in everything that you two do. In fact, she will always choose time with her Bar Girl comrades over any time alone with you. Her overdependence on (and lavish affection for) her girlfriends will have you wondering if she is really a bi-sexual. (And I know what you’re thinking. No, she is not a bi-sexual who likes to impart!).

10. She’s constantly on the phone at odd hours with her “family,” especially the male members of her “family”.

If the margin of the above items clarify your current partner, she is probably not in the “newbie” Bar Girl category: and therefore, should not be trusted without a long (a very long) trial period.

Sorry to be so frank; but I must humbly confess that I’ve “been there and done that, mate”.

Again, when in doubt, wait, observe, and for God’s sake, protect yourself.

Did you hear me?

I said, “Wait. Observe. Then wait and observe some more.”

After that, you can make up your own mind based on your own real life, “hard-knocks” encounter.

Nonstop in “Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (20): Maintaining and Improving your Excellent Tilt.”

“Until next time, find ‘The Flow’ and jump in!”

Your Friend in this Intrepid Journey called Life,

Carl “J.C.” Pantejo

Farang, Asia, compatible, relationship, bar girl, sex, pluses, minuses, advice, wait, watch, scale, needs, desires.

Note: If you want to read more about Asian and Western cultural differences, finding unconditional like, exorcising past private demons, and the Illusive Surprise of Happiness, please read the following articles:

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’: From Heartbreak to Happiness”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (2): Coincidence or Synchronicity: FROM RELAPSE TO MIRACLES…”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (3): LOST AND FOUND – Kindred Spirits and Mistakes made in Haste.”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (4): LOST AND FOUND – Predestined to Be?”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (5): “The Stray”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (6): “New Beginnings, Ancient Endings”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (7) – Living Well? Farangs and Finance: The Myth”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (8) Living Well? Farangs and Finance: The Reality, Stupidity, and Hard Knocks.”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (9): New Girlfriend, New Life.”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (10): Farangs and Asians – Polarized Views.”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (11) – Farangs: In (or taking into account) a long-term Western/Asian Relationship? Read This Now!

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (12) – Farang: Square Peg, Round Hole? Compatibility Issues.”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (13) – Farang: Compatibility Issues II”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (14) – Farang: Tipping the Scales. Excellent or Terrible?”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (15) – Farang: Interpretation of Your Results.”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (16) – Farang: Make Your Scale Sway or Walk Away.”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (17) – Farang: Further Interpretation. Lopsided Scales.”

“Experiences from ‘The Flow’ (18): A Excellent Tilt with a Bar Girl?”

“How Dare She! Out of Desperation I Learned How to Forgive”

“Remember Who You Are!”

“Need to Heal Your Broken Heart? Read on. Overcome Heartbreak and Learn the Illusive Surprise of Happiness.”

(By Carl “J.C.” Pantejo and published internet-wide, keyword: [title of article] or “Carl Pantejo”)

Pantejo@ynvurcepublishing.com

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Where you can find an International Dating Partner

Written by admin on October 14th, 2009. Posted in Dating

There are many places you can find like today, but there is nothing that beats a system that can give you a self to date all the way from the other end of the world. It is something that the world has missed for some time until now. Many people years ago by no means thought it would be possible to have a dating partner in Calcutta while you are in Detroit. No one thought it will ever suggest itself. But the international dating sites have made sure that it is possible to have a date living in the extreme of the world and communicate as if you are in the same room.

It is some what a phenomenon that would make Graham Bell not to believe anything. It is something that makes the world into a very colorful place that has each and every part of your life come of well. Life is something you cannot argue about and you need to have the best that runs deep into your own hands. You should not avoid what makes you to have notions of making your world make sense and having your world in your own sense and in your own manner of things. You must not despair at all as you let life change you.  International dating sites have the best bank of available singles who are ready to start a dating relationship with you and can straightforwardly change the way you live and with the things you live with.

There are many things you should not let the world deny you and the crucial of all is a self to date and influence you. A dating partner in your life, whether he or she is in your room or a thousand miles from you is very vital and you need to open your mind to what makes you tick. The way the Internet is basically entering into every nook and corner of the world is the prelude to international dating sites and their effectiveness. As a child you might wish to meet and probably have a relationship with people from the end of the world, and now is the opportune time to change your life and start what you want.

There are many things you need to have in mind and the crucial of all is to refrain from giving too much of your private details such as your address or phone number to preclude stalkers and criminals from coming into your world. International dating sites give you the best chance to start a relationship that can straightforwardly end into you having friends who might change you forever. The issue of marriage and meeting can also not be discarded since there are potentials of occurring. The world should be your playing field as you let things work in the right way. You cannot refrain from what you want in life and even maximum enjoyment. It is your life.

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